169: Fear Driven Development

Episode 169 · September 7th, 2018 · 38 mins 44 secs

About this Episode

Chris is joined by Kane Baccigalupi, development director from thoughtbot's San Francisco office to discuss Kane's history in government working for 18F and California State and how those experiences have informed Kane's work since.

Throughout the conversation Chris and Kane discuss their shared desire to hide all implementation details and their love of Ruby for how it allows us to do
that, testing vs test driven development, and approaches for refactoring large
untested systems.